Adrian has made this an easy upgrade to perform. Well worth it in my opinion. Because not only is the price very reasonable (even with international shipping), but Mr. Obviously anyone who buys it gets my PM/email support if required (and for what it's worth!). MrShades Gaggia Classic PID Kit (1/32DIN) - Complete PID kit with full guide - £94. PREINFUSION is NOT a function of this PID kit. Benefiting from the warmth produced by the machine, the cup plate for 5 cups keep them always ready to use. This sounds like it might hold off upgrades for a while! I bought and installed the Auber PID kit about 6-8 months ago. Probably took me about 5 hours though as electrics are not my thing and was extra careful. or Unhelpful ( 0 ). However, it's hellishly expensive as you can only purchase them from the US, with expensive shipping and then duty/VAT on top. Being a total idiot on all things electric, I managed to do something wrong and panicked and try to reach MrShades. With fixing a thermo probe a nightmare continued. @Ronaldbiggs Where in Wiltshire are you? Heres a couple of pics off my phone, hopefully will give you an idea of this pid kit on my classic. The Gaggia Classic is a very capable espresso machine that gets even better with a couple of improvements. PID Upgrade.   Your previous content has been restored. I finally decided to purchase this PID and I am so happy I did. Stand out from the crowd with Gaggia’s latest Colour Vibes. We stick by them, existing members please familiarise yourselves with them. The two connectors were so tightly connected that I manage to break plastic insulation on one of them with pliers. This guide includes many detailed photographs, gotchas, and trouble-shooting tips. This PID has transformed my Gaggia Classic. Re: PID Kit for older plastic body Gaggia Classic « Reply #1 on: July 01, 2019, 05:07:18 PM » Could you please take some pictures for the front and label of your Gaggia? Helpful ( 45 ) Shades and you'll get a super quick and helpful response! This is the MrShades PID kit. From United States ... V1- V2 Steam Arm kit fit Gaggia Classic . The instructions are clear and all of the parts required included. You can fix it yourself (use thermo insulator, make yourself a new wire if you have tools and materials to terminate it), but if you do not know what you are doing or how to do it - DO NOT DO IT!!! I'm really interested in this. I thought I was using my intitive, however my mum went mad. It is a fantastic kit with great EASY instructions, His kit has added a new dimension to my love of espresso making at home. Remember me Not recommended on shared computers. Excelent ! From Bulgaria +C $51.10 shipping. This PID controller kit is designed for retrofitting into the Gaggia Classic, Gaggia Coffee, and Gaggia Coffee Deluxe espresso machine. He is clearly dedicated. Remember me Not recommended on shared computers. Shipments to addresses outside of the UK are NOT subject to this. Thanks for your question. If you can either solder of crimp wires, you can do without the kit and buy the PID controller, the SSR, and the sensor from Auber. Pre-made PID kits are so much more expensive because they come as plug and play as possible with instructions and troubleshooting tips. (You'll pick your delivery country and shipping method in the next step - where sales tax will be properly calculated). FILTERS KIT INCLUDED. PID kit for Rancilio Silvia Espresso, w/ Pre-infusion, White Display. This one is a 230-240V 50Hz 1425W model made in Milan/2003. Helpful ( 293 ) One being a plug ten being installing a new sub-station? PID KIT for Gaggia Classic Pro 2018+ & Classic & Home, Pre-infusion. The ability to make good espresso is one of the most coveted skills in the coffee world. If you have ANY doubts as to whether you machine is suitable or which kit to purchase, please email a photo of your serial/model label to us for confirmation. THIS WEBSITE IS COPYRIGHT © 2021. (Looking at you two @Asgross and @bclarke ), It's a standard RexC100 PID - and there's mucho info on the web/forum publically, but all the same - my box looks good, it's all easy to fit, and the Pt100 sensor works well! MrShade is continuously keeping a very high standard of this very well designed and constructed product. Well, if you are a "good enough" kind of person or if you really enjoy and/or are really good at temperature surfing, then you probably don't need one. The temperature stability of the Classic is vastly improved (although sufficient recovery time still has to be allowed for consistent shots). Add PID to Gaggia Classic? As mentioned, I'll give preference to anyone who has a MrShades PID installed - and if you do, then please point that out in your comment. @MrShades - not sure if this is the place to ask, but I've got an issue with the kit (1/32 single display) where the display and the PID I think, switches off when I turn the steam option on. Sign Up Here is a few snaps of the PID housing! *** UPDATE ***. I would highly recommend this. Others gave me feedback on the manual - but Keith got the first kit with first manual and probably spent as much time fitting the kit as he did providing feedback. (and I'll make a decision on the members of my beta group this coming weekend - so if you're a PID customer by then, then all good!) That is a big deal because most of these machines are set at a high pressure to be able to brew espresso … Buy It Now. This PID kit controls BOTH brew temperature and also steam temperature (and hence pressure). STAINLESS STEEL CUP PLATE. Model#: KIT-GGP Update: This kit is compatible with the newly released Gaggia Classic Pro 2018/2019 models, including the US version (RI9380, 120V) and the European version (RI9480, 230V)!For older European version of Gaggia Classic 2015 (RI9403, 230V) please ch eck KIT-GGX-EU.If you want to defeat the auto-turn-off feature in Gaggia Classic Pro European model (RI9480, 230V), one extra … $17.90 shipping. So, be aware of that. New Members: This kit gives me the ability to tweak the temp and better control the Classic's small boiler. If a novice like myself can do it, so can you. For those of you who aren't familar with my Classic mod kits, and to save me just reposting everything - here are … Maybe you’re like Jason Stern who said in a review: “After spending nearly $2,500 a year on STAINLESS STEEL CUP PLATE. Yes indeed - with the PID you don't need any of the thermostats. The Gaggia Classic and the Rancilio Silvia are two big names in quality, entry level semi-automatic espresso machines for home. Shades when my order hadn't shipped in a few business days. And if you have issues with wire colors or setup differing from the manual (some US vs European things are slightly differ), simply reach out to Mr. MrShades, November 22, 2015 in Gaggia Forum. - Rex C100 PID - with SSR output and all pins connected (including the important 6 and 7 for alarm/steam), - MrShades aluminium enclosure with mounting tape (this used to be optional, but I've decided to make it part of the main kit), ---- All wires, premade to required length and preterminated with connectors, ---- Thermal paste (for SSRs and Pt100 if desired). Update (June, 2019): This kit is compatible with the newly released Gaggia Classic Pro. So, try to find a solution for protecting the wires. Full details of it are available here: http://coffeeforums.co.uk/showthread.php?31342-MrShades-Gaggia-Classic-PID-Kit-%281-32DIN%29-Complete-PID-kit-with-full-guide-%A394&p=417906#post417906. Shades responded to my email pretty much immediately and shipped the part right away. User account menu. Maybe a top level comment pinned in a sticked thread with a step by step on how to pull a shot. A Classic with a PID is really no different. And the shipping took only a few days from GB to the West coast US. I really enjoyed the process, and learned a few technical things about how the machine works. I am not familiar with much of the technology but the installation process … In this context - It's the name of a type of 'intelligent' electronic temperature controller that can accurately and properly keep the boiler of an espresso machine at the temperature you desire. Thinking about trying to elevate my game with an Auber kit, read up on it, seems pre-infusion isn't version isn't necessary and … I'm in Bristol so if you can find your way there easily or we could meet up if your further away you are welcome to try it. Trickiest part is removal of old brew thermostat and replacing with new therm. The instructions are clear and easy to follow. It is for temp stability though. Sign In. A Gaggia Classic has more than enough heater power to maintain (or even increase) temperature during brew. Top Rated Seller Top Rated Seller. You're currently viewing prices in USD $.Select a new currency below. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. Why should you buy a PID kit at all? Search Advanced search ← Back to Espresso Machines • Last » Page 1 of 5; Next » alex e #1: Post by alex e » September 4th, 2013, 11:24 pm. Getting it setup took some time, but the manual was well written and easy to follow. This PID kit can take you there. As a bonus, it also makes it easy to get good steam. AW: KIT for Gaggia Classic PID & Home, pre-infusion Hallo Finka, wenn Du auf das Auber Kit mit Dampfsteuerung und Preinfusion anspielst, dann kann ich Dir sagen, dass nur die PID-Funktion für die Gaggia CC etwas bringen dürfte. Sign In. RI9380/?? Overall, this is an absolutely worthwhile upgrade, particularly if you're brewing light roasts, which require a higher temperature and can be harder to temperature surf for. The boiler side of the Gaggia has been one of the things holding me back. If you examine the label on the bottom of your machine you should find one of the following model codes: The manufacture date of these machines is typically between 1991 and 2018 - this date is often also shown on the serial label on the base of the machine in [week no. We shall hence not be liable for any damage to property, personal injury or other loss caused by the improper or incorrect use of the aforementioned installation and/or user guides or the provided kit(s) or any of those kit’s component or constituent parts. How much would this kit speed up the rather slow process of making multiple drinks ? With a PID controller added to the heater control circuit, brew water temperature can be controlled to within ±1° accuracy. As regards the boiler if you are just catering for yourself/wifey the Gaggia will be enough.. It contains: - Rex C100 PID - with SSR output and all pins connected (including the important 6 and 7 for alarm/steam) - MrShades Pt100 sensor - MrShades aluminium enclosure with mounting tape (this used to be optional, but I've decided to make it part of the main kit) - Brew kit: I'm not going to detail the advantages of this kit as I believe it is obvious. Must say I really did take my time with it and installed the Brew and Steam elements. Easy to fit if you’ve got basic hand skills. Helpful ( 62 ) TYPE: SIN035 (Classic)  - but check with us if you don't see an RI number or date also, as the SIN035 can apply to almost all Classics. Many people don't really know what to buy, where to source it and don't already have the tools needed to make the wires up etc. The Auber at $200 is the kit. I like this setup, however, I'd definitely like to have something on par with quality, and standard, in other words, something better than a Gaggia Classic, and not modded. I added computer controlled initial boiler temp and heat during brew. Get Your Supporter Badge Today (per year), © Copyright, Coffee Forums UK With a PID controller added to the heater control circuit, brew water temperature can be controlled to within ±1 F° accuracy. Very happy with OPV and PID mod kits I just finished installing on my GCP. PID kits, OPV kits, and other mod kits designed for various Gaggia espresso machines - drill down into kits relevant to your model of machine. The Gaggia Classic has a very powerful element for the size of its boiler, and the lag between cold water entering and the PID picking it up is about five seconds at the temperatures we're dealing with. Every component and cable is prepared and ready to plug in. Just out of curiosity, did you consider the Mrshades one? $225.00. It took me more then one hour just to replace a thermostat with a probe. I am in the EU and the machine is made for use here. There are two in the kit - one for the aluminium box and one for the Gaggia. South Georgia and the South Sandwich Islands, Mods for post 2018 - Gaggia Classic Pro / Gaggia Classic 2019 espresso machines, Mods for pre 2018 - "Original" Gaggia Classic espresso machines, Original - Gaggia Classic PID kit - 1/32DIN single display. Shades' excellent customer service that can be vouched for on many espresso forums. - and the only real answer is that if you are competent with basic workshop tools, and can follow written instructions and photographs then you should be able to install it. I used a small part of PVC tubing from spare parts for my aquarium. You'll get you Classic producing coffee on par with much more expensive machines and improve repeatability and control. Just all the basic stuff that comes up almost every day. Thanks MrShades, kit arrived quickly and really well put together. Anytime I had a question, Mr. DISCLAIMER:  The installation of any of our parts or kits, and any modification of any espresso machines undertaken by reference to our installation and/or user guides, should only be conducted by persons with proper electrical safety knowledge who are capable and qualified to undertake such work and modifications. As there is almost no space, and if you have hands 'of a standard size', unscrewing a thermostat is a nightmare. Designed and manufactured in Italy. This quick video shows how to easily fit the MrShades OPV spring mod kit to the Gaggia Classic or Gaggia Classic Pro (or other Gaggias with a similar pump). I'm really impressed with the amount of detail in the instructions, everything is very clearly explained and organized, even for a complete amateur like me it's really hard to have any installing issues if you follow it step by step. Make this question visible to others (untick to keep private)? Thus, it will significantly improve the taste of your espresso. Always dispatched rapidly, never missed any parts. But, if you're like me, and I'm guessing you are if you're reading this review, temperature surfing wasn't cutting it and I needed to up my consistency and get my espresso to that next level. NOTE: We are UK VAT registered and hence ALL shipments within the UK attract VAT at 20%. There are a lot of selling points to the Gaggia Classic espresso machine, but one of the big ones is being able to adjust the pressure at which the espresso is brewed at. Once the machine has been set to 9 bars of pressure (see bottom of article), the next big improvement is the addition of a PID. Heat, water, pressure and electricity is a way to serious disaster! This is the MrShades PID kit. I was casting an eye around only a couple of hours ago at the Auber kit and was disappointed by the cost. 1 Replies 2400 Views Sharron September 08, 2016, 02:45:15 PM Operation Manual for Auber PID controller. I agree with other comments - just take your time. By adding a PID controller to the heater control circuit, brewing water temperature can be controlled to ±1 F° accuracy. :-). Benefiting from the warmth produced by the machine, the cup plate for 5 cups keep them always ready to use. 5 out of 5 stars. I own a Gaggia Classic, modded with PID (and a few other things), which is near end of life. Also - for help with tight Gaggia connectors, on new machines they can be tight, so see this video that we made that shows the best way to remove any of them: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X1ntzPlrsZs. In our experience, the best way to add variable pressure preinfusion to a Gaggia Classic is through the use of a pump dimmer mod (ideally with a brew pressure gauge). 67 sold. I have over the last 3 hours purchased a Sage duo temp from Lakeland for £319. You can see a photo of the main contents, ready to go, here: ...and all boxed up ready to go out to the next lucky owner (this one is yours @condor87 ): (The piece of paper isn't there just for the heck of it and to promote the kit, it contains the download instructions for the manual). Common Mistakes in Espresso Preparation Gaggia Classic Pro with PID Kit - Short Review and Demo Top 5 Best Semi-Automatic Espresso Machines of 2020 $500 Espresso Machine Vs. $1750 Espresso Machine // Rocket vs. Gaggia Making a Latte on the Gaggia Classic Pro This is a PID controller for the Gaggia Classic by Auber Instruments.This PID controls water temperature. Gaggia Classic comes with 3 filters available to suit each level of expertise – from beginners to pro – for ground coffee or coffee pods. Pulling Shots With Gaggia Classic Coffee Machine. Continue this thread … My limit before this was changing light bulbs, There's no way I could have fitted this without his instructions, I love his kit , now my gaggia has great steam power and I love trying different temps for different beans. You can see a few sample pages of the manual here. Started by Rocky47. You have to ask yourself how often will there be half a dozen people waiting for coffee? Report Save. Whilst Im keeping the current kit … New Baby, Gaggia Classic: Bottom Line: The Old Baby is the very best home machine Gaggia has ever produced. PID KIT for Gaggia Classic Pro & Classic & Home, Pre Infusion. So be patient and give yourself enough time. Auber Instruments, Inc. PID KIT for Gaggia Classic Pro & Classic & Home, Pre-infusion [KIT-GGP] - Update: This kit is compatible with the newly released Gaggia Classic Pro 2018/2019 models, including the US version (RI9380, 120V) and the European version (RI9480, 230V). You are welcome to borrow it for a while to try it out. or Unhelpful ( 0 ). You further agree to indemnify us and our agents, officers, directors and employees, immediately and on demand, against all claims, liability, damages, costs and expenses, including legal fees, arising out of any installation, use, misuse or failure of any of our kits or component parts thereof. 25. Log in sign up. As a forum member (CoffeeForumsUK) I also know he is always available for troubleshooting on a short notice, in case of installation issues. Click Here To Buy Advertising Space  3. £100 p/m when paid yearly, up-to: 690000 banner impressions per month! Read our. By commencing installation of our kit(s) you agree to accept all liability associated with the modification of your espresso machine, and agree to hold us in no way responsible or liable for any loss, damage or injury howsoever, wherever or whenever caused. >>> Here is the Poemia version <<< This is a multifunctional Homemade PID controller (more info here), based on Arduino, connected to my Gaggia Classic espresso machine.If you are interested in a Raspberry PI project, take a look at here.. Added LCD and Bluetooth support and some modifications to the software of BBCC (BareBones Coffee Controller) project by Tim Hirzel and to the … I rember getting my Zx Spectrum out of the box, 48k, rubber keys and taking the toaster plug apart to see how it was done. I have had my Gaggia for about five months now. I was on the edge to dismantle a steaming wand, even to take the boiler out. Model number of your machine (from the label on the bottom) would also help. I installed this PID at the same time as changing the steaming wand too. The edges on the went holes are VERY SHARP and it is very easy to damage insulation on wires! This gives the machine a whole new level of consistency, and gives you fine control over brew temperature. Drop me a PM if you're interested or have any further questions. Model number of your machine (from the label on the bottom) would also help. 8, 13, 19: Gaggia Boiler Assembly: 110V/1140W (2519) 11: Gaggia Classic Steam Knob . 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